R1200RS + R1250RS Forum
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:48 pm
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I wouldn't say spongy exactly, but when cold it goes into first with no real mechanical indication that it has gone in, and certainly no clunk as there used to be. This has been the case on both the 1250s I have owned, a GS and now an RS. However once underway and when everything has warmed up I find the clunk from neutral into first returns.
Fred
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Zitat von Uberboxer im Beitrag #3 I think a lot of people didn't like the resounding clunk going into first, so BMW did something to reduce it - though I've never read any explanation of what exactly was done. Both my 1250 bikes would still clunk, though not too badly, once fully warmed up. This tends to happen if I go into neutral, say at a long traffic light wait, and then select first, so it seems temperature dependent in some way. Strange that yours doesn't do this.
Fred
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I'm not too worried about whether it clunks or not into first, so long as it is not too horrendous a bang! I am more concerned about subsequent gear changes, and am extremely pleased with my new RS, as in that respect as it is much better than my two previous GS bikes which were a bit obstructive and clunky, especially on upshifts from 1st and 2nd. They also had problems finding neutral - repeatedly going from 2nd to 1st and 1st to 2nd, without dropping into neutral.
Fred
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Zitat von fred_jb im Beitrag #5 Aside from what I perceive as this odd feeling going into first, the operation of the transmission is perfect as far as I'm concerned. Positive shifting into and out of each gear. While I have the quick shifter, my engine is not fully broken in so I have not been using it. I think the majority of complaints on it are a direct result of people not holding the throttle wide open on upshifts. But doing that doesn't seem very wise to me anywhere but on a track or highway. That said, I did try a couple down shift with the quick shifter, seems to work pretty well. But my muscle memory is to use the clutch, again, I don't know if they get much better than on the RS! I have also heard the brakes are not so great, mine seem to work like dropping an anchor from a battle ship......they stop NOW! Not sure I quite like the linked braking, trying to figure that out. I don't have enough miles on the bike to render a fair and full opinion, but so far I am pretty happy with the bike. I wish in the US we could run the bike with only the running lights during the day, but our bureaucrats force us to have a headlight on. I also wish we could get the BMW factory LED turn indicators, again not so thanks to our "protectors" in government. Cant wait to get this thing fully broken in, so I can ring it out! Cheers! |
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Mine (1200) is quiet when the engine is cold but clunks when warm, also has the spongy lever feel into first.
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Zitat von fred_jb im Beitrag #5 I retro fitted GSAP to my bike using parts from a breaker. I amazed me how the gear change suddenly felt spongey, due to the new actuating lever being spring loaded. It took me a while to get used to it. I'm not sure that I'd bother with GSAP again. |
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Zitat von Tony101 im Beitrag #9Zitat von fred_jb im Beitrag #5 That's interesting - not many people will have used the same bike with and without GSAP. I think there has to be some lost motion in the widget so that it only registers real attempts to shift and is not fooled by light contacts, plus this will give the electronics more time to get ready. Maybe this lost motion is also what makes the shift feel harder on a GSAP equipped bike - possibly the lost motion means that you lose some leverage when you get to the point where the lever movement will actually get transmitted to the gearbox rather than just taking up the slack in the GSAP widget.
Fred
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