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Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:02 pm
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Here is a decent review of the 900XR. Some of the less favorable comments include: a slow but snatchy throttle, clunky GASP shifting, ESA only on the rear shock and only two damping settings, windshield buffeting, a small gas tank and a single piece Euro 5 exhaust muffler and collector system that will not permit the installation of an aftermarket slip-on can.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #1 I wonder if the tester is correct on this? He said the front was not adjustable, but maybe he was saying no preload.
Lee
2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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Zitat von Lee im Beitrag #2Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #1 That is the way it was on the last of the F800GT and GS models. ESA only worked on the rear shock. But on those models, I believe that the rear shock was manually adjusted via the remote preload knob. ESA only adjusted the damping to three different positions, soft, normal and hard. However, it does seem that the new 900 models have the R1200RS-style push button preload, including only two damping positions. I am not sure what the situation is for the F750/850 bikes. On all of the F-models the front fork is not adjustable, not even for preload, I believe. Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh |
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #3 I didn't realize the pre LC GS did not have electronic preload. My 2011 K1300S had electronic preload on the rear and that model came out in 2009. I don't remember if the 2005 K1200S had the same ESA setup.
Lee
2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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My 2007 R1200R had an ESA system on both the front and rear suspension, which I thought worked better than the "semi-active" system on my 2016 RS.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #7 Oops I read your post wrong. When I saw GS I was thinking R1200GS before 2013. You were talking F800GS.
Lee
2016 R1200RS Iowa, USA |
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Had a 1 hour test on the XR. Lovely engine with loads of grunt. Sounds good too. Handling is good, but a bit more dive on the front end when braking than the RS, which is not surprising. Brakes are good. The TFT screen is very good with loads of info, including lean angle if you need to know 😉
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Zitat von L2RKE im Beitrag #9 Dynamic ESA is an option which is fitted as part of the £630 Comfort pack, but the description only talks about it electronically adjusting damping and preload on the spring strut - which I take to mean rear suspension unit, and as there don't appear to be wires coming out of either of the front fork tops on pictures I've seen, then it doesn't look like it is on the front suspension. It would be interesting to hear if anyone has seen one of these bikes with wires on either of the fork legs. If it doesn't have ESA on the front, that would explain the bike having more brake dive than the RS, as an ESA equipped RS can dynamically increase the compression damping under braking to reduce fork dive. On an ESA equipped RS the left fork leg has a wire coming out of it, and this allows the ESA system to electronically control the damping valves in milliseconds to counteract dive. Fred |
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The reviews that I have read say that none of the F-models have adjustable front suspension - ESA, or otherwise. All adjustments are confined to the rear suspension. Remember, BMW factory engineers know best. Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh |
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Zitat von fred_jb im Beitrag #10 There's a misleading clue here: https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcyc...2020-bmw-f900xr The penultimate image shows the left fork leg with a black plastic cover and associated wiring. Closer inspection shows the file name of the image to be 2020-BMW-S1000XR5.jpg, suggesting that the picture is misplaced on the page and belongs somewhere with pictures relating to the S1000XR. Reading down the page, ESA does indeed appear to only apply to the rear shock.
Current: 2015 BMW R1200RS Sport SE, 2003 Yamaha TDM900
Past: 1999 Honda CLR125, 1995 Honda CB500, 1998 Triumph Sprint Sport, 1995 Honda VFR750FS, 2006 Suzuki DRZ400SM, 2001 Triumph Speed Triple, 2015 Honda VFR800X "Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube" - HST |
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Zitat von v8guy im Beitrag #12 That's disappointing. I like ESA because it has minimal front end dive. I got used to that since 2003 with our telelever and duolever front suspensions. I wonder why they bother with some bikes having gold forks and some with black forks. Lee |
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Had a test ride on the 900XR yesterday and liked it. The demo had standard suspension, no ESA (only works on the rear shock if it's fitted) or any other toys except heated grips. The roads were awful after the recent storms so no cornering heroics! |
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Here is a link to a review by Motorcycle.com of both the R and XR F900 models: https://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/...irst-rides.html
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2005 Triumph Bonneville T-100; 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2016 BMW R1200RS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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