RE: Dodgy old battery. - 2

Zitat von himoverthere im Beitrag #15

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Ducati fit lithium and the charging systems are identical to the bikes that have conventional batteries fitted.
Don't worry about a lithium battery being explosive, it is very rare as in your phone, toothbrush, laptop and many other things have lithium and that have not yet exploded, besides you have up to 18 litres of petrol between your legs and that really is explosive.

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Zitat von himoverthere im Beitrag #15

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Ducati fit lithium and the charging systems are identical to the bikes that have conventional batteries fitted.
Don't worry about a lithium battery being explosive, it is very rare as in your phone, toothbrush, laptop and many other things have lithium and that have not yet exploded, besides you have up to 18 litres of petrol between your legs and that really is explosive.

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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #12

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Zitat von Boxerboy im Beitrag #11

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I’ve just fitted a Tanya Enduroline YTX14-BS, £40 + shipping and 2 year warranty. Time will tell if it’s a good choice but I’m full of hope, if I get 4 years plus Of reliable service I will be chuffed.

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Tanya? I ordered an Exide from Tayna for my XR. I saw the Enduroline but have no data on them as I think it is Tayna's own label. I will be very interested how your experience pans out...

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Zitat von himoverthere im Beitrag #5

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Zitat von duccrazydave im Beitrag #4

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Just installed this Yuasa. Very happy with it.
The Shoria lithium battery I installed 2 months ago gave issues right from the start: very weak, unsuccessful "first" starts, even in moderate temps. After 6 of these episodes within the first 3 weeks of ownership I had lost confidence in the battery and returned it, to purchase the AGM type battery in the link. Could have been a fluke, since I've experienced great performance and longevity from the Shoria in my Ducati. Your experience may differ.

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You might have a duff lithium there. Mine was fitted into my Ducati 848 about 5 years ago and worked fine for the last year that I owned that bike. It then sat on a shelf for 7 months before I fitted it to my Ducati 939 Supersport and has done 30,000 kms and 3 and a half years in that bike. Never needed charging, even after sitting on the shelf, and is still going strong in the 939.

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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #16

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Zitat von himoverthere im Beitrag #15

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Ducati fit lithium and the charging systems are identical to the bikes that have conventional batteries fitted.
Don't worry about a lithium battery being explosive, it is very rare as in your phone, toothbrush, laptop and many other things have lithium and that have not yet exploded, besides you have up to 18 litres of petrol between your legs and that really is explosive.

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If you throw the phone into the tank, the glowing battery will be deprived of oxygen and may not ignite the fuel.

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Your OP seems plausible. Swapping out a part is an easy way to "fix" a customer's immediate problem (I need a battery TODAY). A 3-year old battery isn't necessarily a bad one, but I'm surprised they'd put a dodgy battery into a bike yet to be sold. Better to have it in for demos but not finish a sale until a replacement battery arrives for the bike that couldn't wait.

This has got me thinking, as my 5 year point approaches. I'm still on my original battery but the other day after playing with setting up my Autocom with the ignition on I noticed the bike just struggled a little to turn over.

Then I remembered that I bought a high capacity replacement when I was having troubles with my rear shock about 4 years ago. It's still tucked away, not yet commissioned. I think that with Lockdown II imminent I'll fit it in the Spring regardless.

If I don't succumb that is...

Zitat von Sanemancured im Beitrag #22

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Then I remembered that I bought a high capacity replacement when I was having troubles with my rear shock about 4 years ago. It's still tucked away, not yet commissioned. I think that with Lockdown II imminent I'll fit it in the Spring regardless.

If I don't succumb that is...

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Zitat von himoverthere im Beitrag #23

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Zitat von Sanemancured im Beitrag #22

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Then I remembered that I bought a high capacity replacement when I was having troubles with my rear shock about 4 years ago. It's still tucked away, not yet commissioned. I think that with Lockdown II imminent I'll fit it in the Spring regardless.

If I don't succumb that is...

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I would suspect that if it is not a Lithium, it will at the very least be flat from sitting on a shelf for four years, and probably dead.
A lithium, however, will sit on a shelf for that period, still hold its charge and have more cranking amps than any high capacity battery. That is why a battery tender is not needed for a lithium.

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Indeed Wessie. Mine is sealed with an unused acid pack.

Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #25

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Due to new legislation in the UK about acid storage, most AGM batteries are either shipped from the factory already activated or activated in the supply chain. Retailers are reluctant to ship acid packs to consumers.

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The BMW-brand, made in Germany by Exide, AGM battery that originally came in my 2009 F650GS twin suffered sudden-death syndrome only 6 months after I purchased the bike in September 2008. The same type of battery that came with my 2007 R1200R expired the same way after 23 months. Both failures left me stranded and required a tow to my dealer. And both batteries were replaced by BMW for free in accordance with their U.S. warranty terms. I never had a problem with the BMW-brand replacement batteries so I guess BMW got a bad batch of batteries during that era.