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Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:28 pm
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Would you like a side of virus with that glass of milk? |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #32 a bit if extra protein denatured by pasteurisation, like the TB bacteria and the various other micro-organisms that can cause mastitis
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #33Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #32 Could you translate that to English, please? Speaking of pasteurization, the supplanting of "real" milk in stores with milk subjected to "ultra-pasteurization" is just another link in the chain of low-quality, ultra-processed food that has crept into our human food source. |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #34Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #33Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #32 We call that UHT - ultra heat treated milk or longlife milk. It is not a big seller. The British are very particular about the milk that goes into that mug of builder's tea. They prefer fresh milk that has just had the conventional pasteurisation, no zeds involved. I don't touch the stuff. I prefer black coffee. The UPFs that are sneaking up the sales charts are the so called plant milks made from oats, almonds, soya etc. Soups of emulsified fats, salt and carbs. Yum, yum.
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If nothing else, the spread of avian flu could limit the number of cows whose milk can be used, leading to higher prices. And if governments act in character, inflation will concern them more than the health of the populace (think: standard diet guidelines). |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #36 not in the mass market - all supermarket milk is pasteurised and even the full fat milk I buy to go on my muesli is homogenised so no layer of fat on top. I use so little, the pasteurisation means it stays useable longer. I tend to freeze at least half the 4 pint bottle. We do have branches of Whole Foods, although fewer than a while ago, so they might stock it. Some farmers are certified to sell whole, unheated milk direct from the farm. Often there will be an automated robot system where you exchange a refillable bottle. Jeremy Clarkson has such a thing on his farm used for that unreality show. Some even have the traditional doorstep delivery using refillable bottles but very small scale in rural areas and small market towns. They might deliver other artisan products from other farmers who have diversified away from the cut throat mass market food chain. Cheeses, butter, cider, baked goods, seasonal veg & fruit, honey etc. All very lovely, at a price most choose not to or can't pay.
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Meanwhile, my daughter raises backyard chickens and only drinks raw milk from a few cows being raised on a small farm located in Northern California 60 miles away. She is one of a group of people who are part of a co-op who help to support the farm. Once a month she drives to the farm, picks up a gallon of milk for each of the members of the co-op located in her city, puts the milk bottles in an ice chest and leaves it at a nearby home for people to drop by that weekend and pick up their share of the raw milk. They all share the monthly pick up duties. Personally, I won't touch that milk, but she and her family have been drinking it for years without any noticeable problems.
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #37Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #36 I guess I need to stop using evaporated milk (Kondensmilch in German) in my coffee.
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Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #39 in the UK we have condensed milk and evaporated milk. The latter has no added sugar and has a thinner consistency. There were arguments about which was best, Carnation Condensed or Ideal Evaporated milk. my parents used evap as they called it like cream on apple pie or canned peaches. They were aged 9 in 1939 and grew up with rationing during WW2. Sweet, canned stuff was a treat in their minds. I ate this as a child but I much prefer custard for saucing desserts, or just cold, spooned from the can.
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #40Zitat von Mr. 36654 im Beitrag #39 Condensed and evaporated have the same meaning in my area. Condensed is the sweetened stuff used in some baking. Evaporated is just reduced water content, but retaining the fat content (1/3 the volume). My maternal grandmother (born 1901) called it......"Cow in a Can".
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Get ready to get your shots, more shots and booster shots, folks, 'cuz here come the birds! |
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Zitat von BEARR im Beitrag #42 That is the way I get my news, via a SF Bay Area newspaper delivered to my home every morning. That is the only news that I really trust. When I look at internet news it is only for its entertainment value.
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My grandparents used to have something called "mock cream" it was a mid-20th century substitute that involved corn flour, sugar, possibly some other things ..? |
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we have a new plague, affecting sheep & deer especially but also other farm animals. One of the benefits of climate change as mosquitoes decide they want to leave Africa and live in Europe.
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