Connected ride cradle/Connected app with Cardo Packtalk Bold help

Hi all,

My R1250RS (2022) should be arriving at the beginning of June, and in the meantime I have ordered the Connected Ride Cradle and put the app on a spare Samsung phone. Coming from a R1200RS (for sale) I have already been watching videos on the TFT dash to learn about its functionality and videos on the Cradle.

Is there more than one way to link everything together? I seem to get different opinions. Like, do I leave the Packtalk paired to the phone, or do I unpair it and pair the Cardo to the TFT and to the cradle, or am I wrong and it pairs to the phone, not the cradle?

I saw one video where he paired the Cardo to the TFT and then turned the bike off to be able to pair it to the cradle or phone, not sure which. It wouldn’t pair to the cradle/phone with the TFT.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

On a separate note, I was looking at the app and none of the screens, home screen, maps, menus etc work in landscape mode, even though I have landscape mode selected in the settings. I hope I am correct in assuming it will give me landscape mode when connected to the cradle and paired up.

Regards

Graham

Hi Graham,

I've noticed no one responded yet, quite a few people still have the older Nav units or use their phones. I went the Cradle route but can only offer limited advice.
While the app has some 'cool' features as far as tracking your rides, lean angles, redlines etc. for a talk with your mates while on a break it is beaten by the google maps in most other regards - for me at least.

I'm happy with it offering an integrated plug-and-play solution for a phone charger, I use google maps on it with great results, and the aforementioned tricks it offers are a conversation piece.

It can transfer turn-by-turn directions to the TFT (redundant next to maps), you cannot mirror the google maps like on the K models.

As far as my half-feedback goes I don't use communication units but do use (bluetooth) headphones on highway stretches. I've noticed when it connects to the bike I cannot stream music from Spotify to my headphones. It shows the music playing so I hope you'll have more luck with a dedicated comms unit.
[i've also switched to wired headphones since losing the bluetooth one taking off my helmet :D]

For my limited demands the cradle does provide - the cradle - for my phone and wireless charging without additional wires and bolt-ons for the steering.

The bike is the main sell anyways - enjoy your new 1250 I love this thing!

Here's what I do with reasonable success. I have the same setup except I use an iPhone.

The Cardo is connected via BT to the TFT only. The Cardo is also connected via mesh to my riding friends' Cardos.

The iPhone is connected to both the TFT and Cradle via BT.

With this setup, I hear nav instructions on the Cardo, see turn by turn on the TFT if I'm in the Nav screen and also see the map from the BMW app on the phone.

I can also make calls using the TFT and hear music. I don't usually listen to music and I'll admit that is pretty flaky. It'll play a few songs and then quit, or make it so I can't advance to the next song. Besides that, it works well.

I should also note that I have two phones, both with service. I use my work phone in the Cradle and carry my personal phone in my pocket, unconnected to the bike. If I didn't have the extra phone, I'd be tempted to get one of the many Carplay screens instead of the cradle.

Thanks Paul, that’s a great help. As I expected the Cardo is not bluetoothed to the phone. I have got a Galaxy S6+ off my son to go in the cradle with a cheap monthly sim. I’ll either forward calls from my iPhone or give the new number to important contacts.

I have read that iPhones can’t stand the vibrations and it might damage the camera stabilisation system. Another reason for the Samsung is the Cardo keeps saying ‘iPhone disconnected’ then ‘iPhone connected’. It has happened with iPhone 11 Pro Max and now my iPhone 12 Pro Max. It was ok with an iPhone 6. Bloody annoying and I do have all the latest updates on both the Cardo and phone. It can disconnect and reconnect straight away or minutes can pass before reconnecting. Then it can do it many times in succession or not at all for quite a while, very random.

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Thanks Paul, that’s a great help. As I expected the Cardo is not bluetoothed to the phone. I have got a Galaxy S6+ off my son to go in the cradle with a cheap monthly sim. I’ll either forward calls from my iPhone or give the new number to important contacts.

I have read that iPhones can’t stand the vibrations and it might damage the camera stabilisation system. Another reason for the Samsung is the Cardo keeps saying ‘iPhone disconnected’ then ‘iPhone connected’. It has happened with iPhone 11 Pro Max and now my iPhone 12 Pro Max. It was ok with an iPhone 6. Bloody annoying and I do have all the latest updates on both the Cardo and phone. It can disconnect and reconnect straight away or minutes can pass before reconnecting. Then it can do it many times in succession or not at all for quite a while, very random.

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Hi Paul,

The reason for using the Samsung isn’t because it might not suffer from damage to the camera stabilisation system like the iPhone might, but the fact that I don’t want to damage my iPhone. The Samsung camera wont be used anyway.

I was thinking of modifying my mount and building in some sort of anti-vibration rubber mount to avoid damage if possible though.

Regards

Graham

I have a Galaxy S10e that was given to me by AT&T. I just turn it off and put it in the saddle bag wrapped up. Or the tank bag. Then I still have a phone for help or rescue for me or others out on the road. I like to use the ride as a break from music but I could just get my earphones out, if I wanted to, and just put the helmet on over them. I have an SC Project pipe on the bike and it is a little load, sounds like a late model snarling Porsche, which does work well enough for long day rides.
I like to keep up with the electronics as I'm hoping eventually someone will offer something that plugs into the wire connector for the factory GPS cradle that will allow you to charge a phone. My phone has a cavernous battery and lasts many days if just at rest a lot ... But if I went out for days it would be nice to be able to charge a phone on the bike ....

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Hi Paul,

The reason for using the Samsung isn’t because it might not suffer from damage to the camera stabilisation system like the iPhone might, but the fact that I don’t want to damage my iPhone. The Samsung camera wont be used anyway.

I was thinking of modifying my mount and building in some sort of anti-vibration rubber mount to avoid damage if possible though.

Regards

Graham

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The connected ride cradle I bought has inductive charging, no need to plug a cable in like I do with the basic eBay cheapy that I have on the R1200RS at the moment

It does have inductive charging and it has worked for me.

One thing to consider in all this is that for the new R12s, BMW has a new "Connected Ride Control" that bluetooths to your phone and allows you to control it with the left wheel. I *think* this might be the same bluetooth and brains as the Cradle, but without the Cradle and not designed to fit in the nav prep.

If it's just a module that will plug into the same location where the nav prep ties into the bike's wiring harness, and offers the same function, I'd ditch the cradle and nav prep to clean up the bike. I haven't yet determined if it'll work though.

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It does have inductive charging and it has worked for me.

One thing to consider in all this is that for the new R12s, BMW has a new "Connected Ride Control" that bluetooths to your phone and allows you to control it with the left wheel. I *think* this might be the same bluetooth and brains as the Cradle, but without the Cradle and not designed to fit in the nav prep.

If it's just a module that will plug into the same location where the nav prep ties into the bike's wiring harness, and offers the same function, I'd ditch the cradle and nav prep to clean up the bike. I haven't yet determined if it'll work though.

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It does have inductive charging and it has worked for me.

One thing to consider in all this is that for the new R12s, BMW has a new "Connected Ride Control" that bluetooths to your phone and allows you to control it with the left wheel. I *think* this might be the same bluetooth and brains as the Cradle, but without the Cradle and not designed to fit in the nav prep.

If it's just a module that will plug into the same location where the nav prep ties into the bike's wiring harness, and offers the same function, I'd ditch the cradle and nav prep to clean up the bike. I haven't yet determined if it'll work though.

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This "Connected Ride Control" thing is new to me. It would be fantastic if it replaces the whole nav prep/connected ride cradle monstrosity. Where is the info on it? Can you point us to it Paul911?

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It does have inductive charging and it has worked for me.

One thing to consider in all this is that for the new R12s, BMW has a new "Connected Ride Control" that bluetooths to your phone and allows you to control it with the left wheel. I *think* this might be the same bluetooth and brains as the Cradle, but without the Cradle and not designed to fit in the nav prep.

If it's just a module that will plug into the same location where the nav prep ties into the bike's wiring harness, and offers the same function, I'd ditch the cradle and nav prep to clean up the bike. I haven't yet determined if it'll work though.

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This "Connected Ride Control" thing is new to me. It would be fantastic if it replaces the whole nav prep/connected ride cradle monstrosity. Where is the info on it? Can you point us to it Paul911?

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I found this on the BMW UK website. Not much detail in the description and no pics of it installed unfortunately. I get the feeling that it works with the latest BMW navigator, don't know about the ConnectedRide cradle or NavV!.
It's at the bottom of the page in the link below and it's called "Navigation Preparation". Price £311.08
It looks like it might fit above the TFT and under the screen, which is perfect.

https://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/en/indivi...modelCodes=0M81

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I found this on the BMW UK website. Not much detail in the description and no pics of it installed unfortunately. I get the feeling that it works with the latest BMW navigator, don't know about the ConnectedRide cradle or NavV!.
It's at the bottom of the page in the link below and it's called "Navigation Preparation". Price £311.08
It looks like it might fit above the TFT and under the screen, which is perfect.

https://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/en/indivi...modelCodes=0M81

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