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Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:50 am
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I have no plan to watch the debate, which starts in 10 minutes, but I'm observing something really eerie. There are no signs of humanity outside. No car traffic, no airplane traffic, no human traffic. As if everyone is inside, glued to their TV. |
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Watched it. Nothing too remarkable. If you’re staunchly in one camp or the other, it won’t make you change your mind.
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Unfortunately, I watched the debate and it was a sad thing to see. A waste of 90 minutes.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #5 People wonder why we always have such poor choices in the USA. I don't know what the rules are in the UK or EU, but political office (especially federal) is only open to (1) people with tens of millions (if not hundreds of millions) of USD to run, and (more importantly) (2) those who are part of the elite political caste. Many good people have run for office only to be eviscerated by the established political elite if they pass the first element. As George Carlin said, "It's a big club, and you ain't in it."
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Zitat von zer0netgain im Beitrag #7Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #5 Money is becoming more important, but for the party rather than an individual. The thing that we have, which has been used multiple times in recent years, is that it is relatively easy to get rid of a duff Prime Minister. The current PM's predecessor did not last as long as an iceberg lettuce, 46 days I think before she was forced to resign after a disastrous budget trashed the economy. We have had a number of PMs post WW2 who came from relatively humble backgrounds. Thatcher was a corner shop owner's daughter. Major's father was a circus and Music Hall entertainer, his mother a librarian. Brown was a teacher in a Technical College, his father was a church minister; Wilson's father was a factory chemist. All went to state schools. We have had our fair share of Old Etonians as well.
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I wish the U.S. had more than two political parties. The way the system works, there is no way another party can gain any traction here. At least with three or more political parties there is the possibility of breaking a tie and it would give the voters more options than just a political left or right. A lot of voters would like to choose someone in the middle.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #10 In theory, multi-party systems give you better representation, especially if you have some form or proportional representation. Your presidential voting system is especially fucked up and our system means 40% of the popular vote can give you a big majority. There are risks to a multi-party system where you can have a hung legislature where there is no overall control. We had this in 2017 and then a fringe party from Northern Ireland held the Theresa May government to ransom as they had enough votes to give her a majority. This led to us getting the Micro Trump, Boris Johnson who had to resign for being an utter charlatan and then we had the Utter Nutjob Ultra Neocon Truss who trashed the already distressed economy.
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Zitat von wessie im Beitrag #11Zitat von Richard230 im Beitrag #10 Politicians - there is nothing like them. They can cause more havoc than any other type of career.
Current motorcycle collection: 2002 Yamaha FZ1; 2020 KTM 390 Duke; 2009 BMW F650GS; 2018 Zero S 16.6 kWh
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Zitat von TPadden im Beitrag #14 This was the answer Onasis (jacqueline Kennedy Onassis) gave on donating his huge wealth and why it would not help the population of his home country if he sold his shipping empire, liquidated his assets and donated them. Never mind how many people would be out of work and need someone else to give them some financial support for their families. Of course the knowledge that there is enough food, water and wealth for everyone if shared equally is useless when the only rule in the world is "the man with the gold makes trhe rules" USA spent enough money against Vietnam to have given every adult there a volkswagon beatle - just imagine if that had happened? Russia has cost thousands of lives to be lost, millions of dollars and rubles for a lost cause, no matter who 'wins' - we are all bystanders to the actions of maybe 100 people across the world. |
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