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I have a 2020 BMW R1250 RS. The stock BMW seat was simply a nightmare. Too stiff and unforgiving. Anything over 100 miles and my rear end was so sore.

At 5’8”, the stock 32.3” seat height required me to install Horneig Handlebar risers which really helped with the pressure on my wrists, and a little more upright feel. Much more comfortable while still providing great steering feedback.

So, when I ordered my Sargent replacement seat, the seat height came in at a height of 30.8”. A full 1.5” lower! The profile of the seat is also scoped, vs more level and flat like the stock BMW seat is.

Now I’m wondering with that much of a lowered seat height, could it be in conflict with the Horneig Risers? These risers raised the handlebar up .75” and back a full 1”. I’m concerned about the bikes geometry now, especially front end feedback.

I’ve already sent Sargent an email to see if I can exchange the seat for their tall version which comes in at 32.4”.

Just curious about what I’m perceiving. Perhaps, I should just remove the Horneig bars and go back to the stock handlebars before I go down the path of exchanging the new Sargent seat.

I will say in closing that the Sargent seat quality and comfort is outstanding. I can tell this was a good seat upgrade for me.

Appreciate the members thoughts, opinions, and recommendations.

My thoughts ?

You're overthinking the whole issue . It's impossible for anyone else to give an informed view. Its all just opinion.

Zitat von jmarnell im Beitrag #1

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I have a 2020 BMW R1250 RS. The stock BMW seat was simply a nightmare. Too stiff and unforgiving. Anything over 100 miles and my rear end was so sore.

At 5’8”, the stock 32.3” seat height required me to install Horneig Handlebar risers which really helped with the pressure on my wrists, and a little more upright feel. Much more comfortable while still providing great steering feedback.

So, when I ordered my Sargent replacement seat, the seat height came in at a height of 30.8”. A full 1.5” lower! The profile of the seat is also scoped, vs more level and flat like the stock BMW seat is.

Now I’m wondering with that much of a lowered seat height, could it be in conflict with the Horneig Risers? These risers raised the handlebar up .75” and back a full 1”. I’m concerned about the bikes geometry now, especially front end feedback.

I’ve already sent Sargent an email to see if I can exchange the seat for their tall version which comes in at 32.4”.

Just curious about what I’m perceiving. Perhaps, I should just remove the Horneig bars and go back to the stock handlebars before I go down the path of exchanging the new Sargent seat.

I will say in closing that the Sargent seat quality and comfort is outstanding. I can tell this was a good seat upgrade for me.

Appreciate the members thoughts, opinions, and recommendations.

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How do you like the tall seat from Sargent? I really didn’t have to much complaint about the height of the stock BMW OEM seat, just it’s comfort and performance characteristics. The Sargent seat is way better all the way around.

Zitat von jmarnell im Beitrag #5

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How do you like the tall seat from Sargent? I really didn’t have to much complaint about the height of the stock BMW OEM seat, just it’s comfort and performance characteristics. The Sargent seat is way better all the way around.

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I have a new 2020 R1250Rs as well. I just did a 700 KM day on it and the only uncomfortable thing was the seat. My last bike was a 2011 Multistrada and the stock seat on that bike was the best I've ever had. I actually find the RS seat too "marshmallowy" and too hot as the ambient temps were up to 34 C or 93 F and the stock seat seams to conduct a lot of heat. I was riding with a buddy who has a Sargent low on this R1250RT and tried sitting on it during a rest stop. It's very firm and supportive and I liked it so I ordered the Sargent as soon as I got home. However, I ordered the high seat as it's very close the the BMW stock seat height which is fine for my 5'10" 32" inseam frame. My concern is that the Sargent high seat doesn't look as contoured as the low seat. In fact it looks more convex than concave. I've got my fingers crossed that this seat will work.

Zitat von Gary64 im Beitrag #7

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My concern is that the Sargent high seat doesn't look as contoured as the low seat. In fact it looks more convex than concave. I've got my fingers crossed that this seat will work.

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Mr.36654 thanks so much for those photos. I'm much more optimistic since seeing them. Especially the contour profile.

I traded my stock seat to a fellow RS rider that was un-happy with his Sport seat (too much pressure on the palms). For me, the sport seat is fun for short rides on twisty roads. The Sargent Tall is much better for long days. Typically, I find myself sitting forward of the "bucket" with "balls" of my feet on the pegs. So, I might be an atypical rider.

Just an update... The Sargent Tall Seat arrived and I could not be happier. The quality of the seat and the fit, contours, and finish are exceptional. I did reinstall my Hornig bar risers and together, the combination works great.

Looking forward to racking up some 300 mile days this summer.