Other Bikes » H-D U.S. motorcycles sales so far this year

According to Revzilla, H-D big-twin motorcycle sales are doing well this year and making a nice profit for the company. It seems like the more their bikes cost the better their customers like them. Not so much their LiveWire electric models, though: https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ha...ivewire-less-so

Seems that BMW also want to sell fewer but more expensive bikes

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According to Revzilla, H-D big-twin motorcycle sales are doing well this year and making a nice profit for the company. It seems like the more their bikes cost the better their customers like them. Not so much their LiveWire electric models, though: https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/ha...ivewire-less-so

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I don't know about H-D, but I've been watching the inventory level at two dealers here, one a BMW/Ducati/Yamaha/Royal Enfield dealer (large dealer) and the other a Suzuki/Honda/Kawasaki dealer, and the inventories are remaining static...bikes are not moving. My question is...at what point do dealers have to do something about their excessive inventory, to make way for new models and to book sales in the current year? After Labor Day...when? I'm looking at a couple of bikes and have to believe at some point soon dealers will be forced to make concessions, and the "seller's market" becomes a "buyer's market".

Thoughts?

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I I'm looking at a couple of bikes and have to believe at some point soon dealers will be forced to make concessions, and the "seller's market" becomes a "buyer's market".

Thoughts?

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I I'm looking at a couple of bikes and have to believe at some point soon dealers will be forced to make concessions, and the "seller's market" becomes a "buyer's market".

Thoughts?

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The market depends completely on what I do, not the dealer. If I'm buying it's a seller's market; selling it's a buyer's. My current plan is top secret.

Tom

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I I'm looking at a couple of bikes and have to believe at some point soon dealers will be forced to make concessions, and the "seller's market" becomes a "buyer's market".

Thoughts?

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The market depends completely on what I do, not the dealer. If I'm buying it's a seller's market; selling it's a buyer's. My current plan is top secret.

Tom

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Time's running out on the "riding season". If dealers still hold inventory that's not moving by late August, I suspect it'll be a "buyer's market" regardless of your (and my) current (secret) plans...lol!

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Years ago when my BMW dealer was also selling Triumphs, he told me that Triumph would give him bikes to sell (not always what he wanted) and after four months, if they didn't sell they would start charging him a "flooring fee", which was apparently like a mortgage interest payment. It wasn't long after that when he dumped the Triumph franchise when they tried to strong-arm him into creating a stand-alone showroom and to stay open 7 days a week. That was just too much for him and he told Triumph to take a hike.

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Years ago when my BMW dealer was also selling Triumphs, he told me that Triumph would give him bikes to sell (not always what he wanted) and after four months, if they didn't sell they would start charging him a "flooring fee", which was apparently like a mortgage interest payment. It wasn't long after that when he dumped the Triumph franchise when they tried to strong-arm him into creating a stand-alone showroom and to stay open 7 days a week. That was just too much for him and he told Triumph to take a hike.

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did you look at the video above - same tactics, different brands, same GFY results in the store featured

Yamaha have been at it in the UK. 3 long standing but modest franchises dropped and a centralised, corporate showroom opened near where I used to live. One of the shops closed as retirement age, one is now selling Chinese Benellis and various scooters and the biggest one still has Kawasaki and is doing well with Royal Enfield and the various Piaggio brands.

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Years ago when my BMW dealer was also selling Triumphs, he told me that Triumph would give him bikes to sell (not always what he wanted) and after four months, if they didn't sell they would start charging him a "flooring fee", which was apparently like a mortgage interest payment. It wasn't long after that when he dumped the Triumph franchise when they tried to strong-arm him into creating a stand-alone showroom and to stay open 7 days a week. That was just too much for him and he told Triumph to take a hike.

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did you look at the video above - same tactics, different brands, same GFY results in the store featured

Yamaha have been at it in the UK. 3 long standing but modest franchises dropped and a centralised, corporate showroom opened near where I used to live. One of the shops closed as retirement age, one is now selling Chinese Benellis and various scooters and the biggest one still has Kawasaki and is doing well with Royal Enfield and the various Piaggio brands.

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Last month my BMW dealer started selling Benellis too. I sure didn't expect that.

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Years ago when my BMW dealer was also selling Triumphs, he told me that Triumph would give him bikes to sell (not always what he wanted) and after four months, if they didn't sell they would start charging him a "flooring fee", which was apparently like a mortgage interest payment. It wasn't long after that when he dumped the Triumph franchise when they tried to strong-arm him into creating a stand-alone showroom and to stay open 7 days a week. That was just too much for him and he told Triumph to take a hike.

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did you look at the video above - same tactics, different brands, same GFY results in the store featured

Yamaha have been at it in the UK. 3 long standing but modest franchises dropped and a centralised, corporate showroom opened near where I used to live. One of the shops closed as retirement age, one is now selling Chinese Benellis and various scooters and the biggest one still has Kawasaki and is doing well with Royal Enfield and the various Piaggio brands.

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Last month my BMW dealer started selling Benellis too. I sure didn't expect that.

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Well, he's already Loncin products. What's the issue with selling QJ motors products?

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In my experience, BMW rarely likes to share a showroom. So, it's pretty expensive to add a line and satisfy BMW's showroom requirements.

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In my experience, BMW rarely likes to share a showroom. So, it's pretty expensive to add a line and satisfy BMW's showroom requirements.

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